kaoru
Bender
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Post by kaoru on Nov 27, 2012 0:58:06 GMT -6
Oh god. The Zuki weirdness is one of the things that bothered me the most about The Promise. I mean, basically everything bothered me, but Zuki weirdness is somewhere in the top 5. (Poor characterisation all around is probably number 1.) I mean, I don't even recall them saying much of anything to each other throughout the show, and now Sukki's all, "he seems so lonely" (insert wistful expression here). Obviously she would have had to converse with him at some point since the Kyoshi Warriors were babysitting him, but I just find it far-fetched that she would get all soppy over him. (She doesn't even get soppy over Sokka!) Exactly.I mean Bryke goes all out on Maiko in the finale and now they're just kinda throwing it aside for hints of Zuki.
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Post by avatarfreak14 on Nov 28, 2012 9:01:53 GMT -6
Everything written here is true.
The Promise was a really really REALLy bad spin off for Avatar: The Last Airbender. It basically butchered the entire Three Seasons of the show that were actually legit.
Let's start with Kataang.
Over the years I was devastated with the non-Zutara ending of the show. But after a couple of years I made my peace with it but went on heartily shipping Zutara. Anyway, I saw a completely different Kataang from The Promise. Remember how Aang was obsessed with Katara and she was indifferent? In this Comic Trilogy, it was the complete opposite. Aang barely treated Katara like she was his girlfriend AT ALL. I mean if you take away the entire forced "Sweetie" (oogie) thing, it was like I was watching the show before they had a relationship. Everyone always told me about how Aang matured and stuff and at the end of the television series I really thought he did. But reading these, I felt like he was oblivious to everything and nothing was serious until the breaking point.
We all know Katara to be a nurturing, cool headed and good natured young woman. I got a completely different vibe from her when I was reading The Promise. She was extremely possessive over Aang. It wasn't like her usual, I- care- about- Aang -I'll- always- have- his -back type thing. It was completely different. She went aggro at these soldiers following orders for battling Aang and when one of them took a shot she started attacking all of them screaming: Don't ever touch my boyfriend! Or something like that. The point is, does that sound like Katara to you? Not to me. They also made her super jealous of these Aang Fans or something in the second comics. To me, instead of the courageous, independent and growing Katara that I loved, I read about I temperamental, unfamiliar and cranky one.
To me, it also seemed like they made Katara completely attached to Aang. I saw no character development and they WERE ALWAYS TOGETHER. I mean, I know they're together but that doesn't mean that they have to be joined at the hip.
Don't even get me started on Zuko. Zuko was the best and most complex character on Avatar: The Last Airbender. You thought you had him all figured out in the first episode. A villain for the sake of being a villain right? That's honestly what I thought. But as the episodes came and went we saw that there was more to him. We learnt of his past and his struggles, we learnt how they affected him and impacted his decisions. Later on, we saw his inner turmoil and how he struggled with himself to do the right thing. And in Season Three, we saw all those mistakes, horrible experiences and the love and guidance of his Uncle change him for the very better.
The Promise threw that all in my face.
I'm serious, they made it look like a phase. I mean, I know that the pressure of being Firelord must be a huge burden but I refuse to believe that Zuko went through three years and development to go back to Square One within a year. That's what happened in the promise. They portrayed Zuko as evil and unreasonable. It was awful.
But what made me hate The Promise the most was the loss of what I valued most on Avatar: The Last Airbender. The bonds that were made. To me, one of the themes of the show is Friendship and love. It was there between Iroh and Zuko and it was there between the GAang. In The Promise, it was like they were all strangers who were FORCED to be civil with each other.
That's my rant done. Thank you.
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Post by emletish on Nov 28, 2012 19:53:25 GMT -6
But what made me hate The Promise the most was the loss of what I valued most on Avatar: The Last Airbender. The bonds that were made. To me, one of the themes of the show is Friendship and love. It was there between Iroh and Zuko and it was there between the GAang. In The Promise, it was like they were all strangers who were FORCED to be civil with each other. That's my rant done. Thank you. so much agreement! I loved ATLA for the bonds between the characters and their friendships and relationships. shipping aside - everyone's friendship was built on such a beautiful foundation and based on mutual care and respect. those friendships grew stronger as the characters grew closer.....and yet in the promise it was like they all didn't even know eachother. are we really supposed to beleieve that a year after Zuko jumped in front of lightning for Katara - that they no longer care for eachother...even just as friends?
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nami
Non-Bender
Mad as a Hatter
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Post by nami on Nov 30, 2012 12:49:22 GMT -6
The Promise? What is this you speak of? That cheaply fabricated piece of trash that comes off as a fanfiction written by a 13-year-old on crack? Oh... I didn't realize that was still around. XD
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Post by avatarfreak14 on Dec 1, 2012 2:17:34 GMT -6
That woman's a genius.
Four season's, huh? That's better than the rushed 2 they were planning. Now if only they'd given Makorra more development..
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kaoru
Bender
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Post by kaoru on Dec 1, 2012 15:52:08 GMT -6
I'm glad they're making another 3 seasons of LOK.(And GreyDelisle is coming back to voice someone!) Zuko's character development has been unraveled.I just hope The Search is less OOC. I was gonna get the omnibus of The Promise for my little sister but she's probably not gonna like it . She absolutely detests Kataang.
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Post by firelordzuzu on Dec 3, 2012 12:55:48 GMT -6
I'm just...ugh I'm disappointed. It's like someone said, I don't understand why Aang would struggle so much with the idea of killing Ozai even at the urging of all his past lives, and yet would be so quick to agree to kill Zuko? It doesn't compute. I will say, though, that artistically it's very successful. I think it's drawn really nicely, and all the characters look great. It just makes it even more upsetting that's it's just really terrible. But it's strange to me that Katara still has her Fire Nation hair? Like...why? Why is it still like that?
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azuremoon
Pro-Bender
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Post by azuremoon on Dec 3, 2012 13:20:11 GMT -6
Basically the only thing I took away from the Promise was Zuko's propensity to faint and be out for a couple days after making Major Life Decisions (tm). And then I just use it to support my theory about how Zuko has an unusually strong/reactive immune system, and those fainting spells are actually brought about by cytokine cascades. ...but that's me being a biology major all over the place. I love your explanations of things. It reminds me of my gleeks friends who are sciencey peoples and bio lovers and I'm learning all the while. Haha!! Tell me more.
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honeybee
Bender
Canon? What's That? O_o
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Post by honeybee on Dec 3, 2012 13:51:13 GMT -6
Here's a question: Why is it called "The Promise"? I never read enough of it to find this out (I couldn't - heck, I still can't). So, anyone know?
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Post by firelordzuzu on Dec 3, 2012 14:01:34 GMT -6
Here's a question: Why is it called "The Promise"? I never read enough of it to find this out (I couldn't - heck, I still can't). So, anyone know? It's based on the premise that Zuko asks Aang to promise him that he'll 'end him' if he winds up like his father, and Aang agrees to the promise. So really, it's all quite stupid.
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